Sony's 300/30 loop release...FREE!

topic posted Mon, November 15, 2004 - 3:16 PM by  DJ Drüe
Just a quick heads-up to all you loop junkies out there: The Acid Planet Website just went through a major overhaul, and they are celebrating by releasing 10 loops a day for the next 30 days, so grab them while you can.

Here's the link:
www.acidplanet.com/freeloops/

Perhaps someone could set something up where we could archive these as they become unavailable.
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DJ Drüe
Los Angeles
  • Re: Sony's 300/30 loop release...FREE!

    Sat, November 20, 2004 - 3:33 PM
    Thanks! I'm checking 'em out starting with the seventh one, in Acid 4.0.

    Its easy enough for me to share the zips if i manage to keep on top of the releases files, but am i leaving myself open to getting sued?

    I don't feel so comfortable yet with the acid copyright situation: The individual wav files have copyright sony in the properties, but i assume that acid loops are free to incorporate into my own commercial work... are we relying on Sony being reasonable for that though? I could see them not wanting someone to mirror their time limited freebee release here, or maybe that is just to save bandwidth...

    *looks around more on sony site, thinks about how much clearer it would be if they used the creative commons creativecommons.org designations*
    • Re: Sony's 300/30 loop release...FREE!

      Sat, November 20, 2004 - 7:18 PM
      You know, you really have to consider what it takes to sue someone over something like this.

      It is honestly just not worth a big corporations time to go after little fish.
      It's the same with the IRS. It takes so many person-hour resources to really pursue someone that they really save their energy for the fat cats who are trying to take them for a ride.

      If Sony is giving out free loops, I promise you they will never sue you even if you share them with someone.

      Just for the hey of it, consider this:

      Who do you know or who do friends of yours know who have been sued for sampling? It's an incredible rarety unless a hip hop arist borrows an entire track and doesn't give writing credit.

      just my two cents.

      rick
      • Re: Sony's 300/30 loop release...FREE!

        Wed, November 24, 2004 - 12:09 PM
        Sony Music is a member of the RIAA, and that the RIAA has lately filed gang lawsuits against, it must now be _thousands_ of file traders.

        I am using this particular loop redistribution conundrum to explore and demonstrate how the currently popular copyright system is broken with regard to sampling, music making in general, and to suggest that we ALL support an alternative.

        Sony should use creative commons copyrights to say what nature of 'free' these samples are. Why Isn't it already?

        Could it be that their content people fear competition from creative commons artists, or that open content gives current peer to peer trading systems 'substantial non impinging uses' and they would rather just kill Peer to Peer completely?

        Anway, the smaller the fish sometimes the more paranoid it is, but i do believe that Sony should put this sort of implied shareable material out under a Creative Commons license so that the sharing is explicit.

        Then i could comfortably post it, thus promoting their wares, my wares, and all the time supporting fellow artists, with my $100 a month bandwidth.
        • Re: Sony's 300/30 loop release...FREE!

          Wed, November 24, 2004 - 8:56 PM
          I found Sony's license details for other various series releases elsewhere on their site..
          mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/lo...asp

          ...
          1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Sony Pictures Digital, as Licensor, grants to you, the Licensee, a limited, nonexclusive right to use this copy of the Content CD on a single computer for your individual use. You are free to use the Content CD in your own original compositions without restriction. Neither the Content CD nor any portion thereof may be resold or redistributed as loops, music beds, clips, visuals and/or graphic images except as otherwise integrated into your own works. ...
          • Re: Sony's 300/30 loop release...FREE!

            Sat, April 23, 2005 - 7:37 PM
            Thanks for all that research, Will.

            I also have to say that the whole ACID loops concept is not very interesting to me as an artist.

            I think it is more difficult but far more idiosyncratic, original and creative to make one's own loops.

            That being said, it is also fun as a sound designer to take an existing loop
            and just fuck it up so much that no one could never figure out what it was
            originally.

            I made a really cool backbeat sound from really tweaking three different electronic drum sounds and then putting them together.
            I changed their zero sample points (tuning them), their ADSR, their cutoff and resonance characteristics and then put the whole mess through some
            overdriven tube software.........it's great........you can't at all hear what the
            original three sounds sounded like.
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      Re: Sony's 300/30 loop release...FREE!

      Sat, April 23, 2005 - 9:00 AM
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      April 23, 2005 - 08:53 AM
      get exposed

      Hi AJ here.

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