Or just really old actual apples............................ewwwwwwwwwwhhhh!!!!

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wow, I'd forgotten that, captive..............thanks for the memories.

I know this wonderful singer, Pipa Pinon.

at one of her shows she baked about 75 sugar packets in her oven
and passed them out to on half of the audience.

the other half she passed out unheated sugar packets.

She then enjoined the audience with the baked sugar packets to grab them by the corners and then hit them on their thighs several times...........breaking up the crystalline melted sugar inside into grains again.

She then did a song where occasionally she had one side of the other of the audience play a simple shaker pattern.

Each packet of sugar was very quiet but when 75 people all played at once it was a very strong musical element in the piece.

Also the baked sugar packets had a much darker timbre and was very distinctly different than the unbaked packets.

It was such a simple idea and it sounded fantastic (because you were sitting in the middle of a 150 person shaker section that was not overwhelming the music with it's volume).

I would have loved to have heard a binaural recording of this innovative but minimalistic device.

And the crowd just loved her for inviting audience participation.

Pipa and her uber talented husband Daniel Lewis are a phenomenally interesting group to see. he plays bays in a very wonderful and creative way and , for my money, has the most distinctive and original sound of any bass player in the Monterey bay region.

She is also a fearless improviser and has not only a wonderful command of her beautiful voice but also is very interested in using noises and grunts and giggles and weird timbres in her work.

She also sings through a clarinet (without a mouth piece) and moves the keys as she sings which cause a comb filter like warbling sound.

I totally stole the idea from her and use it occasionally in my own shows, but it was her genius to come up with the idea.